Illarion Pavliuk is a renowned Ukrainian writer, documentary filmmaker and journalist. He is also, now, in the fight for a free Ukraine. He spoke with me Saturday from his home in the Western part of the country, after he tucked his children into bed. Pavliuk is not a solider, but he does have a military background. In 2015, he was an intelligence volunteer in the war in Eastern Ukraine. And yet, this is what Ukraine has become – a country where internationally acclaimed artists are forced to kiss their children goodnight before they go off to defend their homeland from the occupying force. But it is because of people like Pavliuk that Russian troops are finding their ambitions thwarted. "What can I tell you about this war? It is difficult to say a couple of words," he says. "I would never ever imagine my four children dropping their toys and running to sit in the thickest doorway in the house because of cruise missiles above our city; ballistic missiles. "And I would never imagine this and I will never forgive Russia." He continues: "We will never give up and we are going to win this war," he says. "You cannot defeat the whole nation. And Ukrainians are absolutely united as a nation now. So, there is no way for them to win this war. And yes, this is the most horrible war on the European continent after WWII, and yes, this is a war between democratic world and the world of tyranny and autocracy." To read and listen to the full interview with Pavliuk, tap the link in our bio and subscribe. #ukraine