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that — because for about nine months, Orson Scott Card was an editor at Compute! Books, where we worked on several books about the Atari 8-bit and other computer platforms. His work appears in Compute!'s Third Book of Atari and Compute!'s Second Book of Atari Graphics. He also wrote extensively for Compute! magazine, primarily about computer games. His FontByter and ScreenByter graphics utilities for the Atari computers were published in Compute! His short story The Lost Boys features a character that plays games on an Atari computer. This interview took place on January 5, 2018. Teaser quote: "I really miss programming. I miss those nights, starting after the kids were in bed — 8:30, 9 o'clock — just solving problems ... noticing that there was now light coming through the basement windows, and realizing that I had pulled an all-nighter ... just debugging three minutes of a game." Antic: The Atari 8-Bit Podcast: http://www.AtariPodcast.com Related interview with OSC's son, Geoffrey: https://youtu.be/r17r_AzoLrI Card's articles in Compute! magazine: https://www.atarimagazines.com/compute/index/index.php?author=Orson+Scott+Card Home Computer Games Grow Up: https://www.atarimagazines.com/compute/issue42/gamesgrowup.php Card's final column in Compute! https://www.atarimagazines.com/compute/issue145/88_Last_card.php Compute!'s Second Book of Atari Graphics: https://www.atariarchives.org/c2bag/ Reading the Keyboard Codes in Compute!'s Third Book of Atari: https://www.atariarchives.org/c3ba/page004.php Bill Wilkinson interview: http://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-7-the-atari-8-bit-podcast-bill-wilkinson-oss Bev and Bryan Wilkinson interview: http://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-256-bev-and-bryan-wilkinson-optimized-systems-software Richard Mansfield interview: http://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-206-richard-mansfield-compute-magazine-6502-machine-language-books